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andrewallan
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« on: April 12, 2010, 09:54:06 AM »

I have recently been offered a 1970 Merc 115hp, and was wondering what it was worth (vaguely) - it has apparently been owned by one family for about 25yrs, and apparently was "rebuilt" about 20yrs ago, had the gearbox replaced with a second hand one about 3yrs ago, and had the wiring redone about 2yrs ago. It comes from an employee of a close mate of mine, and I have no reason to believe that there should be anything wrong with it that has been hidden from me. It is still on his boat, and he has offered me the option to take it for a spin. He's replacing it with a 1990's motor of similar size, that he has acquired from another family member?any ideas. He's asking $1500 for it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 12:27:45 PM »

From the pics of your boat you posted earlier your boat appears to have a short shaft transom.
Th transom should measure 15 or 16" if it is a shorty.
Although Merc made the 1970 1150 in a shorty, most of them were a long shaft. As a result, I'm guessing the 1150 on offer is a long shaft as well . Therefore, you would have to modify your transom accordingly.

To be worth $1500, it would have to be in exceptional condition with not a mark on it.
I reckon $1000 would absolutely pull it up, possibly that's even too high.
What are your thoughts Mark S?

If you did decide go ahead with it, it wouldn't be too hard to make it look like a 1966 model which would be more inkeeping with the era of your boat.
See: http://www.nymarine.ca/

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 04:51:33 PM »

Thx - motor is a long shaft, and my transom does look short - I'll have to measure it.

As I spent the weekend ripping it all out, now is a perfect time to change it if needed - I'm presuming that putting a higher transom on the boat is not going to be too degrading aesthetically............or should I be looking for a short shaft engine?

Anyway, I'll also go and check out engine on offer, and take some photos.
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 04:03:57 PM »

My opinion is that vessel would look fine in a long shaft.
We look forward to seeing pics of the motor.

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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 10:15:40 PM »

Turns out that motor in offer is actually a 1969/70 Evinrude, not a Merc. Asking price is $1500.

Been offered a spin in the boat this weekend - what do I look for/listen out for/record on video/ etc....................

I understand that it's been very well looked after/rewired/rebuilt etc, and the guy selling it has a lot to lose, by association,  if it's a dud.

A bit like flying off into outer space for me..................................please HELP!
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 09:35:45 PM »

I think $1500 is a pretty high price for it.
They often go for $500 or so, but without a known history.

If everything is perfect and it's 100% reliable it might be worth the dollars, but then why is it being upgraded?

If it was me I'd probably pay 1000 if it was really nice and working perfectly.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 12:34:33 PM »

I agree with DumHead on the prices, that is what I was going to post.
It wasn't the best model they made, and if you get a bad one they can be a real lemon.

Electronic ignition power packs were unreliable on this model and cost about $600-700 to replace. When you take it for a test run turn the engine off and let it sit for 10 minutes. Then see if it restarts. The radient heat from the engine block used to make them lose ignition voltage if they were playing up. But it should have already been upgraded. Also make sure it doesn't grate when engaging reverse. It should run smoothly with no misfires etc. Power tilts also were pretty ordinary.

Dealers hate this model and your friend would be lucky to get offered $500  for a trade in. Some dealers won't even trade them. That's probably why he's trying to sell it privately. If you feel it's not good value. From 1973 onwards the V4's were a lot better and had major upgrades, buy one of them.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2010, 06:26:11 PM »

oh yeah the ignition systems can be fun (points with electronic amplifier)

I haven't had any real problems with the ignition modules, but the distributor and leads are painful to repair / replace.
You can adapt a car style ignition box if you have to, which makes things a lot cheaper if the amp has died - but a bit more work Smiley

The carbies are often pretty painful too at this age, and it can be really hard to get them tuned nicely.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2010, 06:37:48 PM »

Thx guys - hopefully weather will be fine this weekend to take it for a spin, and I'll check these things. If you hear of any guys washed out Port Phillip Heads, then the motor was obviously crap, and didn't start again!!

The guy selling it has upgraded to a newer motor bought from a family member, which is why is hasn't been traded, however it sounds like I'd better start talking the price down a bit (= a lot).

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2010, 07:36:19 PM »

We need a language doctor !
Thx guys and crap ?

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2010, 09:04:41 PM »

Sorry - "crap" is obviously not an acceptable term.........

My apologies.  What I meant to say was that if the motor wasn't going to start again, then you all may hear of 3 guys who are washed out Port Phillip Heads this weekend...............personally I'm hoping it will start joyously each and every time, and that I'll be able to purchase a pristine, harmonious engine which will have me home safely every trip.

I think we can resolve the language issues without a "language doctor", although perhaps those whom advertise on ebay could use some lessons in their descriptive prose.

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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2010, 07:32:13 AM »

Spoken like a specialist. Wink
Thank you Andrew .
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