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 on: December 29, 2018, 07:16:23 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by antman
65 hp

 on: December 29, 2018, 07:10:54 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by antman
Hi mercman .sn 2287548
has blu band but red 650 ss under that sticker
i think its at 50 years old its got bits of anything compatible
have put back together .found  a woodroff key ..pack 110 assorted
found 3x6.5x16 did the trick ( have ordered 2 x originals from states )
 cleaned up the surfaces with  valve grinding compound  cranked the nut to 75ft pounds torque and
relocating the belt back onto the gear on the flywheel was the hardest part
set the dizzy arrow to the flywheel timing mark .droped on the belt to the dizzy gear
turned it over a few times and it started and idles nicely
has throlle when given the diizy a tweet with linkege disconnected ....
will give it a crack
(trying to post pic s


 on: December 29, 2018, 10:35:27 AM 
Started by antman - Last post by MERCMAN
Congrats' on finding your obvious problem.  Grin . The replacement Crankshaft Key you are looking for, can be easily found at you local outboard wrecker. Ther are that typical with many model's its not funny.
As for the hull, that particular pic makes me say: Swiftcraft Falcon, perhaps.

Is that your motor you have been posting about? You said yours was a 650SS.
The cowls in the pic tells me they are 1973/4 Cowls. There was no SS in those two years. The 650SS was only manufactured in 1967 & 68.

If that is your motor, please provide more pics and I'll happily identify what is going on here for you.


 on: December 26, 2018, 06:21:45 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by senojn
Hi A
Nice to hear from you . You do love your boating so I trust February will be kind to you although my logic suggests the 1st quarter will start as the last quarter finished  Wink
I still admire my girl sitting in the back yard as we also find ramps difficult in our 70's.

Hope you have recovered Merman as you are now back in the fast lane .
Chicago deserves a lot of time with it's testosterone atmosphere and the magnificent buildings including the 'Smithsonians '
Nautically  (to stay with the 'board ' I remember posting photos of the Chicago river and the lock which allows accesses to Lake Michigan .
Happy New Year to all .

 on: December 26, 2018, 01:58:09 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by andrewallan
Welcome Antman, and seasons greetings to you all. Sad when 2 paid mechanics haven’t resolved your problem!

Mercman, I have no idea about loose or broken reeds! I was firmly told by Mark S last year NOT to remove the cowl on my engine! Am off down to the beach tomorrow for 10 days, and might get the “trusty” Hartley in the water, dependent on the number of nimwits using the boat ramp, and the length of the queues to said boat ramp! If not, then will get some water time after January. still some anxiety about boating, as she ran really well for the first 3/4 of. The last trip, and really badly for the last bit!


 on: December 24, 2018, 11:48:18 AM 
Started by antman - Last post by antman
confirmed broken key on flywheel  pulley connected to flywheel which explaines everything to do with timing marks not being out  now hunting for woodroff key
 by the way can anybody identify this hull ..

 on: December 18, 2018, 06:43:57 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by antman
thanks Mercman ill check it out ..and post the results

 on: December 18, 2018, 06:32:05 AM 
Started by antman - Last post by MERCMAN
Wow, your head must be spinning. (unlike your motor)

If I was there, I'd be removing the flywheel to check the key hasn't been sheared. Perhaps someone has removed the key just for a joke? I've honestly discovered that before! That will throw the timing out the window.
Then I'd check the condition of the underside of the flywheel and make sure nothing is loose or broken.

By the way, has the motor been coughing or sneezing at all? Is fuel spitting out of a carbie perhaps?

Keep us posted, this won't be too hard (said the actress to the bishop)

AA are you there? I'm coughing and sneezing at the moment with a summer cold. Do you think I may have a loose/broken or damaged Reed or perhaps a timing problem?


 on: December 15, 2018, 12:34:01 PM 
Started by antman - Last post by antman
Hi im Ant
thanks for your exellent forum
ive been googling nd tinkering for 6 months on my problem
I aquired a 14.5 fibreglass runabiut with a 650 ss engine
the engine started ,but hadnt been used for 18 months and little use before that 
on its first run on the bay it  only reved to estimated 2500 rpm (tacho not working ) and could not get the hull planning
off to mechanic ,, was told dizzy not advancing .. get new dizzy
back in the shead  , after amber thinking liquid ....grease nipples
test on bay ..... yep fixed plaining ..going hard and fast !  Grin
10 min later it dies  Angry restarts .then dies  row home
weeks of tinkering i book in to another mechanic
i was told ..the timming is way out    need a new dizzy
took it home and pulled bits off to investigate
= the rotor is at lead 1
=the pully arrow on the top ofthe dizzy assembley is alligned with the rotor
=the arrow mates up perfectly with the 2 dots on the fly wheel
=teh number 1 piston is at the BOTTOM of the stroke ( number 2 piston is at tdc)
what he ? whats happened here ?
so i move all the leads around ..hence engine timming is 180 deg out
and the thing starts 
took to water ..idled out then stopped
returned to garage and checked it out again
now everything is  reversed again back 180 deg ! i put leads back  .but now wont start ... timming is good leads right got spark gotfuel Huh
1  how can this happen
i after 1 month of thinking and wraking peoples heads and googling have deduted thet the flywheel must be moving
but then i think the timming marks would move
but if the pulley thet drives the dizzy is fixed to the flywheel then  the timming marks would be correct .
but if the pulley is on the crankshaft ... it would have to move and be out
i so confused ..its been 9 months of crash coarse 2 stroke outboard learning

 on: December 14, 2018, 08:06:57 PM 
Started by Chair - Last post by andrewallan
Wow. Flinders Island - that’s a big change. I’d just love to do something like that, but I suspect I’d need to be single!


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