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1  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 19, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
Dumped the boat outside Mark's joint thus arvo for a few weeks of "rehabilitation" . Korumburra must be a decent place, as no one nicked my  boat in the few hours it was outside his place, but I suppose this may also reflect negatively on my boat....

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2  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 18, 2017, 10:03:30 PM
Got out on PPB today - beautiful boating day. Motor ran slightly better than last weekend, but still no “full throttle” - probably managed displacement hull speed at best, and then motor eventually conked out, and we had to ask for a tow in, which was v undignified.

Now going to chuck it to Mark S to resolve, as I just don’t have the skills. Irritatingly, from previous use, I know the motor can run really well, and, whilst I am toying with replacing it with a new one, I really would prefer to keep the old donk on the boat, as the era matches.

I’ll see what Mark can do...just need to deal with a 1.5 hr drive to him, and another 1.5hr drive home from there...

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3  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 17, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
Makes sense - also explains why no revs when carby intake flaps were closed last weekend! Hopefully the new coat hanger wire connection allows a better boating experience tomorrow. Now, where do I find an original version of what was connecting the flaps at each end of the carburettors, coz I'm not sure coat hanger wire is going to last so well.....?
4  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 14, 2017, 08:06:35 PM
Ahhh. Missed that, Neil. Oops.

I can probably fiddle with the skids etc when painting it, and spend some time lying on my back in the ground, splattering paint on my face.

Will hopefully get out with this weekend, now that I've established that outboards need air to work, and then decide I don't want a new motor.

BTW, in terms of basic engine functions,  when the throttle is moved forward, and the air intake to the engine is consequentially increased, what is it that increases the rpm?

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5  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 13, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Yes, Neil, I realise this. Too hard to do

Boat painting  needs to be "resolved" on the trailer, so might end up painting on some dilute epoxy whilst on trailer, then "bogging" it up, sanding it back as best as I can do and painting, or just " dealing with" the deficiencies until non boating weather, and thinking about it then.

Have thought about painting her on the trailer, but something of a PITA, as the mudguards on the wheels prevent the boat tipping more that 1" to each side, thereby limiting access to the bottom of the hull.

I'm keen to get out on the water, even if paint ain't where I want it to be.

PS mentally toying  with the idea of replacing the 'rude with a modern engine, but would I be evicted from the forum?

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6  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 12, 2017, 08:15:39 PM
Bummer re booze....

Started her up today on muffs, and all worked well. Wasn't really the best morning for boating, and we had other things to do, so didn't go out, but I'm happy that I've trouble shooted enough to have her running OK when next she gets used......until the next problem!

Needing some paint under the waterline, but more of an issue is the abrasion to the edges of the keel, which exposes raw wood, the keel itself being  protected by a brass strip. Do I repair these raw edges with  epoxy?

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7  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 11, 2017, 03:30:12 PM
Problem partly solved. Seems that the throttle-choke linkage rod has been stolen by fairies. Fashioned a new one from thick coat hanger wire, and it sounds a lot better on the muffs. Might even chuck her back in the water tomorrow....

Other problem today was that I couldn’t get my 5hp “spare” outboard to start either!

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8  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 11, 2017, 12:17:23 PM
Took her out this morning, and we limped along on 1/2 cylinder....help! Now home, fortunately without having to ask for a tow.

The motor was only just running at full throttle - and the pitch seemed to rise and fall a little.  At home I ran her on the muffs, and tried each cylinder separately - they each started, but the speed of each was uneven, rising and falling. Remember that this is the first time I have had her out since the carburettors were fixed, and it was me that reattached them. I wonder whether it is a problem with the fuel flow - there are those "long screws" that can be adjusted through the air intake, and I wonder whether these have been moved in redoing the carbies? Any ideas please?
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9  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 09, 2017, 07:13:30 PM
Yes. Like my wooden house!

It gets lots of sunshine, but doesn't get immersed in water.....hence my plan to use house paint top sides.

There is even a whole west facing wall that hasn't been painted for 25yrs, and which is still intact...! Maybe I shouldn't bother painting my boat at all?!

Ok. I'll watch the YouTube and think more....

But, I do enjoy "piquing" Neil's comments, and house paint on boats always seems to set him off. He does , however , have a very beautifully finished boat.

Another anology relates to my recently deceased mother - at 90ish, she decided to replace her front picket fence, and decided to use pre-primed jarrah pickets. She then asked me to paint them properly, so they would "last".

I declined, on the grounds that jarrah, pre-primed or not, would last for ages, and even the primer on the fence would probably outlast her.


Anyway, hoping to get out on the water Sunday.

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10  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: November 07, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
Did a bit of sanding,  bogging and priming this weekend.... and am actually using turps based house paint on  top sides, despite the cackles from you guys.  Might use some boat grade polyester on hull, but ain't got anywhere near that yet. Probs next summer!!

Aiming to get out in the water next weekend, weather permitting.....

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11  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: October 26, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
That's more expensive than the Portsea pub!
12  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: October 24, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
It's "coming together" in terms of boat getting some use again, but I look at Neil's photos, and would just love to present her in a similar way - it obviously won't happen!

I've got dings in the sides and keel/ missing paint/flaking paint/mismatched paint/unfilled screw holes/household electrical switches/ a tangle of wiring, which all works, but needs to be shortened and put in a conduit/a Perspex windscreen that is foggy and scratched, and sits loosely on the top of the cabin.....all of which irk me, a lot.

But, I've got a usable boat, so, I'm just going to have to accept the defects at the moment. If you recall, she cost me $600, and the motor was free, so I've had ? 8/9 years use for bugger all, and there's a bit of reverse snobbery with having a crappy boat where all my weathly  patients have "perfect" boats!

But, one day, I'd like to have a well presented 1970 ish boat and motor.

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13  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: October 19, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
Thanks Guy. I'll have a look this weekend, and take some photos/measurements. Do I need to photograph both ends, or is the engine end always the same?

As to beer - yep, if you wish to buy it in the pub at Portsea, it will be $9. I only drink at home, in which case the cost of beer doesn't change much!

V excited about opportunities to get out in the boat over next few months. Just hope there isn't too much "troubleshooting" of problems to slow things down (and that carbie rebuild from late last year makes everything work even better).

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14  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: AA's Hartley Flareline on: October 18, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
12 month beach house rental now sorted - boat now down at Sorrento.

New steering and helm have now been installed. Bow rail added. Wiring being "cleaned up". Need to work on some painting, but much more use likely to occur over summer. Will post photos as appropriate.

Still need to resolve replacement throttle cable. Will measure and deal with this soon.

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15  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Information Wanted / Re: queries re steering cables for 1970 Evinrude Starflite 115hp on: September 23, 2017, 11:05:14 PM
Pulled out steering cable today, and realised that the reason the steering was so difficult was not only that the cable had worn half way through (thinking really awful outcome if cable broke whilst cruising  at whatever knots a Hartley and a 115hp motor do), but that the helm was full of really old hard sticky grease.

Decided to just replace the whole lot, including steering wheel.

Hopefully we have just found another long term beach house rental at Sorrento ( Port Phillip Bay), so boat will get a lot more use.

The winter has been good to me for backcountry skiing, and this will probably take precedence over the next month or so. I've had some good trips up into the mountains,,and going again this weekend

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