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1  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Who can make embossed stickers? on: January 02, 2019, 10:15:06 PM
Hi Ken,

Are you still about?  Apologies I never followed up on this...

Life (marriage, kids, forgetting my password) all got in the way....

My Savage side treads are still in quite good condition, so could be used as a base mould, but would need cleaning up on first cast to make them clear for future casts....

2  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Wanted / Re: Savage Javelin Gunnel Step to copy on: January 08, 2013, 05:08:04 PM

yeah, on closer inspection, the treads were made from what looks like plastic or rubber, that has perished.

Ken (slowpoke) has kindly offered to create me a file that I can send to a CNC place to hopefully feed a router, and I have a couple of leads on reasonably priced CNC work, most likely in powder coated aluminium at this stage, or plastic/resin if aluminium is cost prohibitive...

We've just had twins, so I haven't had a chance to photograph/take a rubbing of the ones on my Javelin...

the Viva has a clean deck, so no leads there ... The only ones I've seen on a Pursuit didn't have the Savage logo in them....

We got the big Chrysler going on the Viva, but and it was certainly a quick ride!  It's now on the back of a Stiletto that is even quicker than the Viva was! Wink
3  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Wanted / Savage Javelin Gunnel Step to copy on: December 28, 2012, 09:54:24 PM
Hey Folks,

I'm trying to find a good copy of a Savage Javelin Gunnel step (the plate on the gunnels that is about 8" x 3", with the Savage logo and stripes on it) to have new ones made.

Any assistance that can be rendered would be greatly appreciated!  If you can loan me one, I'll get you a new set made as well!



ph: 0401 140 797
4  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Boats Chat, Old Outboards and Runabouts in Australia / Re: Old Tohatsu - identification please on: December 28, 2012, 09:51:58 PM
I managed to find some info on the Japanese Tohatsu site. They had an old sales brochure in PDF, however most of its in japanese.

Apparently its an OB-3A Model - 3.7kw or 5hp. It's either a 1961 or 1962 vintage. I spoke to the Tohatsu people in australia and they know nothing about them. I have sent an email to the Tohatsu headquarters in the hope of finding out some more info.



Wasting your time ringing Lakeside Marine (Tohatsu HQ) - try ringing Kevin at AB Outboards in Melbourne - he used to have the Tohatsu import business before handing it off to Lakeside, if anyone would know which model this is, it would be him or his father...   his contact details are over at www.challengeboats.com.au
5  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Viva on: August 03, 2010, 12:26:58 PM
Man, a Viva with a 130hp. Shocked

Take my advice and make very sure your Insurer is very comfortable on what you have done.

It will get very messy and expensive when they (the insurance companies) walk away from you when if there has been an injury or worst still, a death.
A fellow I've known for 46 years was embroiled in a fatal boating incident in recent times. He has been to hell and back (he's not really back).
Seriously Drew, cover your bum.

On a lighter note, check this out. http://board.net.au/yabbse/index.php?topic=516.0
Everything was safer in the old days.. even smoking was safe.


yeah, we're aware of the safety issue, and we've well over-engineered what we've come up with, and are totally comfortable with the package as it currently stands.

Am very aware of Sid Goldfinch's history, not that it has had an input to what we've done - things HAVE moved forward over the years... Wink

on the powering topic, we're also working on the theory that the factory rating of the transom was around 80 HP, and a Skier 130 is realistically around 90HP at the prop, allowing for gearbox power loss.... It'll still be a bit of fun, but long term, our intention is to repower it with a 50-60 blueband or similar, and sell it off as a complete package...
6  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: Viva on: August 03, 2010, 10:36:42 AM
Savage Viva (circa 1966),
At 12' in length, she was modeled off her big sister... the 15' Pursuit.


We have a Viva that we've just dropped a 130 Chrysler Skier onto, after reinforcing the  transom... we traded the boat with an old Evinrude 40 on it, which was knackered, and figured we'll have a bit of fun with it for the coming summer...  the hull was rated to 80HP at factory, but the upgrades we've done will easily handle the Skier...

anticipating around 50-60 mph, but it's just for a bit of fun....

Will grab some pics next time I'm near the boat... it's currently sitting in a paddock up to the axles in mud...
7  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: New Member - a Javelin owner on: August 03, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
Hi Andrew,
A very nice looking Javelin, in good condition.
Has it been restored or is it pretty much original? Very glossy - repainted?
I may be able to assist you with the stickers - or point you in the right direction. Please supply more detail with a photo if possible.

God, been a long time since I posted this thread up...

the only restoration that's been done was the windscreen, transom, and the floor has been re-flowcoated...
8  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Hoping a Javelin owner can help! on: February 01, 2009, 02:48:26 PM
where are you located?

I'll have a look at mine and see if they're still ok.

I'm in Melbourne... I'm still chasing pricing, but from some brief inquiries, should be able to get these done around about $20-$30 per step panel, in a nylon, or about $50-80 in stainless... I'm thinking of going down the stainless path, and have them powdercoated in an off-white to match the original color...
9  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Who can make embossed stickers? on: January 13, 2009, 12:55:56 PM
Hey Ken,

the stickers are definitely embossed, and a silver foil look finish.  Next time I'm at my folks place, I'll grab them out of the book case, and scan one...

the steps are a rubber (looks like bakelite from wear) step held down by two metallic strips...  I'll get some photos when I next get near the boat (at my parents B&B in their garage at the moment)...


10  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Who can make embossed stickers? on: January 10, 2009, 10:33:52 PM
Hi Folks,

I was recently cleaning out some of my grandmothers paperwork, and came across a set of spare stickers as fit to the Javelin Deluxe back in the 60's.  Looks like my grandfather must have talked a spare set of stickers out of Savage at the time.

I'm referring to the stickers on the rear of the upper hull as seen in this photo:

they have the rich blues and reds of the Savage company, but the silver has the company logo raised in embossing... I've spoken with a few sign writing types, and people who make marine stickers (Hales) and no-one seems to be able to reproduce these stickers (the ones I found are a bit motheaten from being stored for over 40 years)

I've contemplated getting them reproduced in very thin stainless - about 2 mm, but I think secure attachment to the hull will be an ongoing issue...

Any ideas?


11  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Hoping a Javelin owner can help! on: January 10, 2009, 10:27:38 PM
Hi Folks,

Hoping that a fellow Javelin owner can help here.

The gunwale steps on my Javelin have gone hard, and the Savage emblem is no longer visible.

I'm hoping that someone has a Javelin with a side step I can take a plasticine moulding of, or borrow for a few days to have copied in stainless steel.

I'm referring to the steps on the top of the gunwales that have the two aluminium strips holding them down.  I believe the factory fit was rubber, but powder coated stainless will look equally good, and last forever!!  The "steps" are the ones just behind the seat line in this photo:

The boat is in my parents garage at the moment, as I'm selling my place, and they are over 100 km away, so I can't get a close up pic easily...

I can always get a bulk run if someone can donate a mould!  Everything is cheaper in quantity Smiley


12  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / Re: New Member - a Javelin owner on: December 23, 2008, 08:20:44 AM
The Savage sticker on the side is unusual to me. The early ones had a sticker and a wide S.


the sticker was there when the hull was delivered from the factory, and I'm betting that my mums dad talked a spare set out of the Savages when he picked it up!

Interesting story - I was retrieving at the Warmies one day, after a day fishing on PPB, and an old guy came up and asked if he could look at my Javelin, as he made them when he was a young bloke...  Told me before he even looked at it, that he used to put a slight bend on the end of the Javelin badge in the dash when he fit them, so he'd be able to identify his boats...  Sure enough, mine has the bend!

How about that, hey!
13  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Savage Pics & History Wanted / New Member - a Javelin owner on: December 22, 2008, 10:21:20 PM
Hi Folks,

just discovered this board, after finding a VERY old PM from the Chariman at Fishnet.

I own a 1962 (or thereabouts) Savage Javelin Deluxe - the one with the beige colored deck, and white hull.

I'm the 3rd generation in-family owner, with the boat being purchased by my granddad brand new from the factory in Williamstown, then owned by my old man briefly, and now me.

Originally, she was powered by a 2nd hand Evinrude v4 80HP, which blew up when racing at Eppalock (back when it had water in it), and was replaced by a Johnson Super Sea Horse 60HP (the Jumbo), which was a military import from the US - in the lovely military khaki....  When I got the boat handed down to me, the Jumbo was in bad nick - needed a full rebuild, which was going to cost similar to a new 20" shaft engine, so there the restore started...

So far, I've - replaced the home made trailer with a full rollered drive on Mackay 2001 series, replaced the transom with a contoured custom designed 20" transom, so I can take a standard shaft engine, new floor, new windscreen, new back to back seats (made by me), new custom wiring loom from end to end (also by me), and a Tohatsu TLDI 70 (modified to 90) HP outboard...

Currently, we use her as a bit of a social ski boat, fishing boat, and general river cruiser to go to have lunch at Southbank in Melbourne...

With the old Jumbo, I had a top speed of about 38 MPH, now I'm around 52 MPH, spinning a 4-blade stainless 18" prop...

Take a look at my baby, and let me know what you think!

I'd be keen to know if anyone can help me to find some gunnel steps and some side "S"s as they are the only things left to restore.  I have some original decals I'm going to get copied as soon as I can find someone who can do silver embossed stickers, as the originals are a little motheaten...



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