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1  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Boats Chat, Old Outboards and Runabouts in Australia / Re: Mallard Outboard on: June 14, 2018, 12:47:48 PM
Hi guys,

There are quite a few UK built Mallard outboards in Australia. In fact if you keep an eye on eBay or Gumtree, you'll see one or two pop up every 6 months of so. Price as always is subject to condition, with most selling in the $100-$150 range.

A friend in NSW picked up an excellent example 2 weeks ago (eBay purchase) for $175.00. Earlier this year a friend in WA picked up an equally good unit for $125.00 via Gumtree.

Hope that helps.

Where are you located Ian?

Regards,
Spiro
2  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Boats Chat, Old Outboards and Runabouts in Australia / Re: It's been a long time on: June 14, 2018, 12:39:59 PM
Thank you Neil.

Have had the opportunity to purchase a few inboards over the last 6-12 months, but have resisted the temptation in all cases.

Space (or lack thereof) is a real problem for me right now. I am even considering letting go of some of my duplicate outboards.

Regards,
Spiro



3  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Boats Chat, Old Outboards and Runabouts in Australia / It's been a long time on: June 07, 2018, 10:09:33 AM
Hi guys,

It's been a long time since I posted on here, so I thought I'd stop in say g'day and and let you know what's been going on.

Still collecting Vintage Australian Outboards albeit at a much slower pace than ever before. Space is a big issue. Most recent purchases include 1947 Verity, 1947 AMECO Seasprite, 1945/6 Commando and a SNIPE which appears to be quite rare.

The Verity and Seasprite are special as both have low denomination serial numbers and are great examples of our Australian Outboard Manufacturing history.

The Commando is Serial Number 81 of approx 100 produced for the Australian Military towards the end of WWII. They war ended before they were put in to service and hence they were sold off as surplus until approx 1949.

The SNIPE is one that's not been seen of heard of before by any other collector I am aware of. It does not appear in Hunn's The Old Outboard Book, but it does have the words The SNIPE, Made In Ballarat and a Phone number cast in to the Tilt assembly. The phone number will be used to identify the original manufacturer and manufacturing year range, which I expect to be around the mid 1950's.

Other than that, I've started a Website (work in progress) and a facebook group to build on what we know about Australian made Outboards and to make information gathered thus far more accessible to others who share in our passion. Both go by the same name eg

Website address is www.vintageoutboardsaustralia.blogspot.com and the Facebook Group is Vintage Outboards Australia.

Of course all of you are welcome to take a look, join if you wish and contribute any information that you may wish to share. As said, the website is still a work in progress. Many pages have been already populated, but there are equally as many that I've not got to yet. 

I'll post up some resto threads soon. In the meantime, here are a few pics of the above-mentioned Aussie outboards.

Regards,
Spiro
4  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Boats Chat, Old Outboards and Runabouts in Australia / Missing Photobucket Images - Solution on: October 06, 2017, 08:39:54 AM
Hi guys,

Not sure where to put this as there doesn't seem to be a place for general announcements.

Anyway, a few months back, Photobucket changed its terms thus making invisible all images linked to forums ie unless an annual fee of US$400 was paid by the account holder. In other words, they were demanding a ransom.

There is however now a solution available via Google Chrome and possibly others.

For Google Chrome users, Go to Google Chrome, Click on Tools and then on Extensions. Enter Photobucket in to search field and Click Add on

The above-mentioned will make all previously linked images in this forum visible again.

Regards,
Spiro
5  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Australian Made Outboards / Re: Riptide Sportsman on: May 22, 2017, 04:01:07 PM
Thank you Guy & Neil, your comments are much appreciated.

Guy, whenever you're ready to speak about paint prep, don't hesitate to give me a call.

Finding some interesting things in this outboard. Flywheel has a crack in the top section suspected to be from a prior failed attempt at removal. As a result however, the conventional method of removal (puller) will cause further damage, hence I'm going to need another flywheel. It is a WICO PACY made in England, and is used on numerous small engines, so I'm hoping there will be one I can get a hold of somewhere.

I've removed the engine from the mid & lower, and have removed the head and exhaust manifold off the engine also. This allowed me to confirm both pistons are frozen solid within their respective barrels (cylinders). I managed to free one after persisting for approx. 3 hours yesterday. Got the other to move approx. 3/4" also, but in doing that, the skirt came in to contact with one of the barrel studs and is now broken. The pistons (photos later) are very similar to those used in early Johnson and Evinrude outboards, and hence I will take some measurements and post on the AOMCI forums for identification and replacement advice. Will keep you all posted.

Why I chose this as a hobby I do not know (grrrrrrr). And that bloke who invented salt water, well, I've got a few things to say to him also.

Regards,
S

6  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Information Wanted / Re: Landcraft or on: May 15, 2017, 04:26:45 PM
We recently did similar with a small half cab at my brothers place. Also donated an old Johnno to him that now sits on the back.

Great landscaping idea. Wish I had the yard space to do the same.

Sorry I can't offer any detail on this particular boat.

Regards,
Spiro
7  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Australian Made Outboards / Re: Riptide Sportsman on: May 15, 2017, 04:19:22 PM
Another Riptide Sportsman!

I stumbled across an image of a Riptide Sportsman on Facebook along with a request for assistance with identification. Responded to that and several days later found myself talking to the owner. He had found it under a house he had purchased some 18 months ago, and had no interest in it what so ever. As there was a chance it would end up at the local tip, I offered him fair money for it and arranged to meet at an agreed location some 300km from home.

About 10 minutes prior to arriving at the meeting place, I received a call from my brother to say that my father had passed. My plans now are to restore in memory of my father and to display it in my study.

Facebook photos





No time to inspect. Cash handed over, loaded in to the boot of the car and back to Melbourne.





Serial number. Note my other is 60 8020 so 1 year apart.



Pressure washed and with wrap around cowl section removed. Prior to purchasing, was advised that the engine was locked up. Have had the head off to check the bores. only some light surface oxidisation, so I'm confident it will be fairly easy to free up.



Need to pull my finger out and reassemble the other before I go much further with this one.

Regards,
S
8  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Wanted / Re: Evinrude Big Twin on: January 24, 2017, 02:41:55 PM
G'day Peter, and welcome to the boards.

A few pics, some model details, your location and asking price would be beneficial.

Hopefully there will be someone here happy to give it a new home.

Regards,
Spiro
9  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Members Boats / Re: Anniversary SX 2 on: November 30, 2016, 08:09:15 AM
Congratulations Neil,

SX2 is looking great. Many years of enjoyment and 'new' fond memories to come.

Regards,
10  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Evinrude DD 1922 on: September 26, 2016, 02:40:37 PM
Now we're getting technical  Cheesy

Brass over steel. The steel provides the weight.

Regards,
Spiro
11  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Re: Evinrude DD 1922 on: September 22, 2016, 07:58:53 PM
G'day Neil,

I spin then them up on a drill press and start by holding sand paper with a grit appropriate to remove any flaking nickle plate etc against the surface. I then move to finer grits progressively, finishing with 000 steel wool and metal polish.

To protect from tarnishing, there are a variety of clear coats specifically for brass, bronze, copper etc available.

Use the same process for aluminium flywheels, but I don't clear coat those.

Needless to say, there is a high potential for serious injury to self if care is not taken.

Hope that helps.

Regards
Spiro
12  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Restoration Projects: Underway, Prospects, also Help and Advice / Evinrude DD 1922 on: September 22, 2016, 06:10:25 PM
Just thought I'd post this here primarily for Neil but also for others who have an interest in Evinrude but may not have known that they also made inboards.

This particular unit is a 1922 Evinrude DD, twin cylinder, 4.5hp at about 1,500rpm, serial number DD66070. There were a total of 3,222 of these made between 1916 and 1927, so it's fair to say that they're rare in the US and extremely rare in Aus.

There are a few missing parts eg primer cups and grease cups, that I should be able to source locally. The flywheel magneto is also missing so it wont run as is, however to get around that I will build a buzz coil similar to that used on the earlier outboards, T model Fords etc.

Enough fluff, here she is (without carby fitted):









Regards,
Spiro





13  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Racing Outboards / Re: 1930 Johnson PR-50 Hydro Racer on: September 22, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
Learning lots about this thing as I go.

Rotary valve is after-market and same may apply to the crank-case also. Not overly fussed about that, because it's expected that race motors will be fitted with non-standard equipment ie racers used whatever was available to keep their motors going. That said. many after-market parts eg Hubbell, Quincy etc were generally of a better design/quality and delivered improved performance, hence they are more sought after than factory originals, at least amongst race enthusiasts anyway.

Have also found that the heads are off a Johnson PO-15. AOMCI members have advised that was a common mod delivering increased compression. Another interesting mod is replacement of the original single coil in the magneto with 2 separate coils. These ones are Victa and fitted by Bob, who was the previous owner. However the Americans do the same mod with near identical coils otherwise branded and claim that the benefit is a much stronger spark at the plugs. Don't know how true that is (I've got nothing to compare) but am happy to run with it.

I was fortunate that an original P-50 / PR-50 rope sheave appeared on eBay US. Needless to say, I purchased it and it's now on this motor.

Still a ways to go, but here's some photos.







Regards,
S
14  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Racing Outboards / Re: 1930 Johnson PR-50 Hydro Racer on: August 05, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
G'day guy,

I also had questions about steering and tracking and the only thing I could come up with is that the leg must have sat further into the water back then ie against what we would expect in a high speed application today. By sitting deeper, the section immediately above the gearbox and below the cav plate may have contributed to rudder action, but I just don't know.

The is a little skeg at the fore of the gearbox. Other that that, what you see is by design, not a modification.

Bert Jones was definitely around in the 80's so there is a chance the bloke you mention may know of him. I haven't mixed in those circles so don't know any of them, so if you can make a few calls to find out what they may or may not know about Bert and this little outboard it would be great.

Thanks & Regards
Spiro
15  Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts / Vintage Racing Outboards / Re: 1930 Johnson PR-50 Hydro Racer on: August 04, 2016, 01:17:28 PM
Not a lot of progress to report on this one, but it is moving along slowly.

First up, a copy of the pic of it from the 2003 edition of The Old Machinery Magazine. thought I'd pop this up because there wasn't many pics of the assembled outboard posted previously.



Have started cleaning up some of the bolt on parts. Here's a few of the gearbox as a sample of what's being done.







I managed to find some NOS Champion R1 plugs in the US and had those shipped to me.



I have also managed to find a correct methanol carb and spent a lazy Saturday afternoon cleaning that up.

First pic for size relativity. The 2" throat seems excessive to me for a 24hp outboard, but who am I to argue with the experts?













More in due course.

Regards,
S

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