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Vintage Australian Outboard Runabouts => Information Wanted => Topic started by: AaronJ on July 05, 2009, 08:02:06 PM



Title: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on July 05, 2009, 08:02:06 PM
HI gang,

Have been trying to find a non-US forum to get some help ID'ing this boat I just bought off Ebay on impulse!

I've been after a 15+ foot boat for a while now to take on as a project with the end resulting being a bit of an all-rounder for fishing, just cruising around Port Phillip and Western Port, etc.  Most of my motivation is about taking on a big project. However.... when I saw this one I just could not say no. I loved the lines and at not much $$$ I figured I'd give it a go even though it's NOT what I've been after.

Now, I donít know much about it.

Details are its all fibreglass with ply supports behind the dash and around the cabin areas and its 13'2" (4.0m).

Itís been hinted that it may be form the mid-60's with that moulded outboard well even though I feel the styling at least looks older.  I think best I just put up some photos:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/04Jul09_Onthewayhome.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/04Jul09_Lachy.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/04Jul09_NewHome.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/04Jul09_New3.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/Windscreen.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/BowCleanup.jpg)

If you need any specific photos to help with the ID let me know.

It looks like some kind of cabin partition or front seat backrest has been cut off and Iím inclined to just strengthen that area, clean up the lines and leave it that way.

I have grand plans for her, but will save those ideas and Qís for another thread other than to say in light of my impulsive buy she will be called ďCapriciousĒ!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/capricious.jpg)

Any help to work out what she is would be greatly appreciated.

OhÖ. There was an old rego plat on the dash (with number). Is there any way I can track down what it was registered as using the old number?

Cheers,
Aaron.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: Chair on July 05, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
Welcome to the board Aaron. What a Beauty! No clues here except if you tell us the old rego number it would help to identify the year.
I have had some success in identifying the boat at vicroads. I got onto this nice guy there who really looked hard for me. Call them up and enquire about the current rego and if you can keep it (you should be able to if it hasn't been taken. Sometimes you'll get a negative result, but don't take that. Call back and get a more helpful person.
Let us know what you find. Also what suburb are you in?

Chairman(David)


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on July 06, 2009, 08:33:47 AM
David,

Thanks for the reply and welcome. I'm so wrapped to have found a local forum on old boats!

Don't have the rego details on me right now at work, but there was a second small red plate (approx 100x12mm, WxH) that I have seen on other old boats. It was not attached like the rego plate (the mounting holes were there), but was found amongst all the gunk I cleaned out. It had 1980 on it! So I guess at least it was registered some time aroudn then.

I'm in ELtham.

Cheers.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: senojn on July 06, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
Hi David,
I find it interesting that your boat registrations go through Vicroads .
I had so much more difficulty here (NSW) researching sometime back with 'Maritime'.
Boats with them trailers with RTA .


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: MERCMAN on July 06, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Hi Aaron,
I love your vessel, she has great lines. I'm pretty sure I've seen one or two of these Runabouts before, it seems very familiar indeed.
I feel it was built in the very early 60's.
A 65hp short shaft motor will be more than ample that's for sure.

Amongst our members there are many fine people who are very knowledgeable on the restoration of Fibreglass boats and older Outboard Motors. Feel free to ask all the questions you want under the heading: Restorations, Help and Advice.
Over the next few days many members from all around Australia (and a couple in the USA) will see your post and your beaut' pics and perhaps then we may learn the exact origin of your boat.

MERCMAN.
 


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on July 06, 2009, 07:03:08 PM
Oh don't worry MercMan.

I have quite load of Q's and many I don't even know I need to ask yet ;-)

Will aim them in the right direction in time.

Cheers.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on July 10, 2009, 09:04:32 AM
Update on the mystery boat:

I called VicRoads (VR). They checked their current and archived databases with no luck. Apparently their database only goes back as far as the late 80's. They suggested I call Maritime Safety (MS) as VR supposedly does boat regos on behalf of MS.

So I called MS but they too were no use. They donít have a database of rego numbers apparently!

Neither VR of MS had suggestions for where else to try other than what I have already done here on this forum amongst you other keen boaters.

So the mystery continues unless one of you guys can help?

Iíll post here on the forum, but Iím blogging the rebuild here if anyone wants to follow:

http://capricious2009.blogspot.com/

Cheers,
Aaron.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: Chair on July 10, 2009, 11:13:42 PM
Not good enough Aaron. I doubt if you reached someone who can help you. Records in Vic go back prior to this. What is the rego you are trying to trace?  Letters numbers. Then we may be able to help you.

Chairman


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on July 11, 2009, 09:00:03 AM
David,

Certainly the people I dealt with were helpful, but maybe they did not know all there is.

Any help you or others can offer is greatly appreciated as knowing what she is would add a lot of meaning to the rebuild for me.

How about another photo?

The red plate was not attached, and was found  in the hull, though there was a pair of holes above the blue plate that appeared to match.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/aajenki/Boat/Rego.jpg)


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: hisNhers on September 17, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Cheers mate, was trolling through some stuff on the web, came across this http://www.old-omc.de/gallery2.html

Certainly looks similar to yours.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: Chair on October 03, 2009, 10:21:47 AM
Aaron,
Did you finally work out the make.
Was it a Feathercraft?
Chairman


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on August 26, 2010, 09:32:15 PM
WOW.. almost a year since the last message!

Well... I am about to get back to it and get this little boat up and running.

However, I still have the problem of not knowing what she is. Certainly she's not a Fearthercraft and I have searched other forums high and low with no avail on a hull that looks anything like it.

Any additional thoughts?


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: HOOKED.UP on September 20, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
Hi AaronJ,
                          Try checking out the original Bell Boys from the USA.

Hull is very similar, but the cap is a bit different.

HOOKEY.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on September 21, 2010, 09:25:05 PM
Hookey, are you able to point to a link/s of what you've seen. My Google attempts came up with nothing even like mine.

Cheers,
Aaron.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on September 27, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
Hey David,

RE your "not good enough" comment above.

Thought I'd give it another crack today.... same result!

Once we got through the "if you're not the registered owner we can't give out info" and me saying "there is no registered owner... it was $300 cash off Ebay, last registered in 1980" story, I applied gentle pressure to the call center guy. Let him know I knew of others that had similar questions answered through VicRoads. He caved and went to his supervisor but came back with a  firm "we have no records".

So still at square one I'm afraid and after 15 months of surfing every boat related thing I could find, I have still not seen a boat that is even close. Well some a close (as linked above) but there are always fatal differences that omit them as an ID option.

So this is it.. my last sing-out (might be doing a bit of a Johny Farnham here though)... CAN ANYONE HELP?

How about that "familiarity" you talked of Mercman? Any light bulb moments?

Think I have the new definition of frustrated.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: Iangb on September 27, 2010, 07:29:12 PM
Back in the early 60's there was a Melbourne FG boat builder producing hulls awfully like that. That model was called 'Blue Wings'.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on September 27, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
Now that's just teasing Ian. Google hits a big fat zero for me.

Do you have anything else to go on that might help find a hit?


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: Iangb on September 27, 2010, 09:39:47 PM
Now that's just teasing Ian. Google hits a big fat zero for me.

Do you have anything else to go on that might help find a hit?

I wish.........my Google agrees with yours. My dad had one late '50's /'60. His had a white hull and blue deck........with that same strange sheerline aft. For the life of me I can't remember the builders name but.
I can tell you it wasn't a large outfit..........two moulds only, and the buyer did his own fit-out.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on September 28, 2010, 08:44:32 AM
So close yet so far!

I already figured it had to be a low production number boat, otherwise it would not be so hard to find something.

Hopefully someone else here will recall something.

Surprisingly, mine originally had the same paint scheme (blue/white). The deck was a light sky blue and white hull.

Any chance you guys have a photo hidden somewhere? Would be great to see if it's the same thing (little own if it was by some freakish coincidence that same boat).

Aaron.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on October 01, 2010, 01:35:34 PM
Update:

Tried the Victorian Public Records Office.... No luck.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on December 23, 2010, 07:41:20 AM
Morning gang,

With quite a few new members lately, I wanted to bring this post back up to the top to see if anyone had ANY kind of additional info on my boat.

Nearing the last chance to come up with a faithful restoration target, before I go more custom and my beloved (but some of you loathed  ;D) stripes get laid down in paint...

Aaron.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: andrewallan on December 23, 2010, 09:27:57 AM
Maybe have a look on http://www.fiberglassics.com, and post a piccy there.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: AaronJ on December 23, 2010, 10:06:42 AM
Yep, did that when I first started asking around 12 mopnths ago. No luck.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on November 30, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
Hi Aaron,

I'm not going to be very helpful but I have the same type of boat!! 

I also don't know what it is and have no history. It has the same steering system. 

Mine is a bit different as it has a central rib between the back to back seats.

I only just purchased my boat in Melbourne.  It is a bit rough but it floats and runs.  Currently cleaning it up with the view to repaint next year.

Cheers,
Anthony


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on November 30, 2017, 04:56:53 PM
from the back


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on November 30, 2017, 04:57:54 PM
Cockpit


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on November 30, 2017, 04:58:53 PM
Mcculloch Flying Scott 75hp


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: MERCMAN on December 01, 2017, 05:50:44 AM
Hi Anthony,
Welcome to The Board. Yes, your boat appears to be the same as Aarons. Perhaps you guys can start a Club? Somewhere in The Board, I posted some pics of yet another one of those boats which I came across in the Southern suburbs of Sydney (no motor) about two years ago. No, it wasn't yours.

Anyway, I have a very good friend who use to race one of those McCullochs on a 12 ft Haines in the mid 1960's. Believe it or not, this friend who I met in 1973 is now 71 years old and still racing boats. He has a collection of over 70 outboards. I'm very confident he can steer you in the right direction when you are in need of parts. Your water pump impeller is the first thing which should be changed, before you launch her.

Let me know if I can assist.

MERCMAN.
   
 


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on December 06, 2017, 09:00:51 PM
Thanks Mercman.

Yes I have seen the picture of the other boat in Sydney.  It is a real mystery that there are three boats and don't know what they are!!

Thanks for the offer of help with the motor. 

Luckily the impeller was changed in the last 12 months by the previous owner (I have the old one in the box of parts) and what looks like a new spare as well. 

My boat had been used up until 18 months ago at Lake Eildon so it is in reasonable condition.

One thing that concerns me is there is no filter system on the front of the carbys.  I'm thinking that would not be good for the engine.  I'm trying to find the correct air filter for the three carbs.  See photo attached



Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: MERCMAN on December 08, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
That's great news about the impeller.
Fuel filters were rare on a lot of motors in the good old days. I think they relied on simply cleaning out the bowl from time to time?

A quality "in line" plastic fuel filter will suffice. It can be easily mounted somewhere under the bonnet!

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on December 08, 2017, 09:42:53 PM
Sorry Mercman,  I meant air filter on front of carbs not inline fuel filter (which it has 2 off)


Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: coupe59 on December 08, 2017, 09:49:51 PM
Like the plate on the front of these carbs



Title: Re: What is this boat? (pic heavy)
Post by: MERCMAN on December 12, 2017, 05:35:26 AM
I'm with you.
Although, I believe you will find it's an Air Box, rather than an Air Filter. It's there to reduce induction noise.

MERCMAN.