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Title: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on March 21, 2017, 04:13:31 PM
Hi,
My son just inherited his Grandfathers Boat. It's a Swift Craft with a 1971, 50HP Merc.
Can't find anything else like it. Note the hatch and wrap around front windows. The Cabin was designed for these windows.
Wife's family don't remember anything but it was there when I turned up in 1980.
Any other boats from the 70's seem a lot more modern. Anyone know the year and model. The ID plate that was on the back is missing.
The only reason we know it's a Swift Craft is the stickers! The windscreens not original. Don't think it ever had one.
Any ideas?
Thanks


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on March 22, 2017, 08:08:39 AM
Hi and welcome to The Board.
Yes, your 50hp is certainly a 1971 model. As for your boat, the hull certainly looks like a Swiftcraft. However, I can't ever recall Swiftcraft having a Cabin and certainly not one like that! Perhaps it was an aftermarket thing available in the day? Any one with basic boat building knowledge we will able to detect if it was retro fitted to your hull many moons ago.

Your rego' number is certainly not NSW, by the look of the grass you may be in QLD, a little west? To me, your Cabin looks like something that may have been made in VIC, there were some weird and unusual looking designs floating around the Melbourne areas in the 60's. May be another member will provide some clues for you?

MERCMAN.

 



Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Mark S on March 22, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
The Victorian registration number suggests 1968.

Not sure on the model, What length is the boat?, do you have any photos of the inside?

Mark S.






Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on March 22, 2017, 01:43:12 PM
mmm
Victorian trees and Victorian rabbit hutch perhaps?

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on March 23, 2017, 11:25:02 AM
Yep, Central Victoria near Lancefield. Boat was from Yarram, use to go out of Port Albert after being towed by his 1969 Land Rover (My Son in law now has it).
We got the boat although my 21 year old son wished it was a speed boat. But it seem a good safe way for him to get into boating.
Merc was rebuilt in 2009 from receipts I found. Pop was a brilliant mechanic of older motors.
Boat small registration paper say 4.4 m


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on March 23, 2017, 03:26:10 PM
Thanks for these extra pics. I'll send a few of those shots off to some old boatie mates and see if they can recall anything about this vessel?

Lancefield eh? I have a customer located in Clonbinane which is't that far away!

As for the re-build, even if Pop did change the impeller it will be wise to change it again. An impeller with 8 years without any or little use, probably will cause issues down the track. It's always best to start with a clean slate! However, I suggest you make sure she's a real good runner before you spend any money on her.

MERCMAN.
 


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on March 23, 2017, 04:12:55 PM
Thanks I will. Probably been a while since it has had a run.
Pop used to go flat out across the inlet. In fact he went flat out in everything he drove!


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: darrcoll on March 23, 2017, 10:52:44 PM
I would Hazzard a guess that it's defiantly a retro fit cabin.  Seems to have a join around the base.  Definitely deck and cab not one piece out of the mold. 


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on March 24, 2017, 08:05:55 AM
I would Hazzard a guess that it's defiantly a retro fit cabin.  Seems to have a join around the base.  Definitely deck and cab not one piece out of the mold.  


and that's a quote from a shipwright! We are very lucky indeed to have this sort of expertise in the wings.
 
The Cabin was probably been added soon after the boat left the moulds and then was stitched up. There is no apparent evidence of steering wheel nor gauges been fitted to the dash.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on March 24, 2017, 10:22:07 AM
I just had another look. You can unscrew the cabin from the deck. Thats why the only similar hulls I could find on google from the late 60's had no cabin.
But it was probably done from new. Perhaps the hull sat around for a while and they found a cabin that fitted.
Thanks.
Also just realised the motor is a 2 stroke. Correct? Any advice on the best mix?
The questions I should have asked Pop when I could have!
Attached December 81 Port Albert. Ver young me waiting for Pop to park the Trailer.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Mark S on March 24, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
Great old photos. Love the HR on the boat ramp, Looks like a nice old 50 red band well worth preserving.
You can see inside that cabin that the side bunks have been added too.

Need an exact measurement front to back right through the middle of the boat with a tape measure. The measurement on the registration paper is always unreliable.

Mark S.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on March 24, 2017, 12:22:26 PM
Re your question about 2 stroke.
Yes, she sure is! Our recommendation to to use a high quality Outboard Oil TC-W3® (not plain 2 stroke oil)  https://www.nmma.org/certification/oil/tc-w3

Mercury Premium Outboard Oil is the ducks guts for your motor.  Ratio 50:1
Don't use any fuel containing ethanol.
Don't use fuels any older than 8 weeks, as they can damage your motor.
Use 91 Octane as a minimum.
I believe some fuel at 95 or 98 have a better shelf life.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on March 24, 2017, 01:31:44 PM
Thankyou, Thankyou Thankyou!


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on April 05, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
Found the ID plate hidden amongst some papers at Pops. But does not tell us much.
Does anyone know what year "B. P. Kay" had his name on the plates?
I'd like the boat to be from the 60's as it would suit my tow car better. Not sure how we will go on the boat ramp however!


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: yachty60 on July 12, 2017, 06:38:58 PM
Hi my Father and his 3 brothers owned swiftcraft boats originally called Tilly Craft, the boat you have is a Kingfisher see attached advertising  to me it looks like a cabin fitted to the 1500 model,  i don't remember them but there was a large fire at the factory around that time so maybe they lost the mould for that one also the seagull model probably came out not long after.

I am happy to try and find out more from my father and if anyone needs answers to model identification i should be able to help.

SwiftCraft,  Swift Craft, GBV products build boats from around 13ft up to the 33ft Sapphire also they build 33ft ship to shore boats for the Navy.

Hope that helps.
Mike G 


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on August 22, 2017, 04:43:21 PM
Yep that looks like it! Thanks for that.
So they did have a windscreen!
Been overseas so just logged on again.
Just for interest, I was keeping an eye out while away and found these in York.
Not as cute as mine but...


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: yachty60 on August 24, 2017, 07:46:51 PM
Glad i could help.
Photo of an open kingfisher.



Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on August 28, 2017, 12:20:14 PM
Now thats cute!
We did play with the idea of taking the cabin off ours!
Went to Berlin Technological Museum and they had some interesting outboard there!


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on September 11, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
Another Question!
Any idea of the year the boat is?
I arrived on on my wife's family scene around 1980 and they already had the boat then bought second hand.
It never had a windscreen or drivers seat. I think this photo I just found must be when he first got it.
Thanks!!


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on September 12, 2017, 03:25:08 PM
Outboard: 1970-72
Car: 1963-64.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: Pops old boat on September 14, 2017, 10:24:35 AM
Thanks Mercman (again)!
Pop and his sons fixed up a bunch of EH's in the day. If you look closely there is one behind the boat in bits.
Wife almost got an EH ute for her first car. Ow how I wish…….


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on September 15, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
Yeah, I see the other EH now.

On further investigation, I found over a quarter of a million EH's were built from 1963 - 1965.

In 1964 my Dad had an EH Station Wagon 179ci with three on the tree, as a Company Car. Dad travelled over 100,000 miles in that car before the first set of spark plugs were changed. His second Company Car was a HK Station Wagon 161ci with three on the tree. I was driving his HK around the local streets when I was only 12 years of age. Dads third Company Car was a HQ Kingswood Station Wagon 202ci with traumatic transmission. Arr... those were the days.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: yachty60 on September 22, 2017, 06:38:13 PM
I would think the outboard date as Mercman stated would be correct for the Kingfisher. See the photo ( members boats ) I posted of the factory production line with a few kingfishers in the finishing section.
Great photo of your pop, EH and boat.
Mike g


Title: Re: What year and model is this?
Post by: MERCMAN on September 23, 2017, 04:42:33 PM
My reason for not showing the exact year model is: all decals remained unchanged for three year models. (1970, 1971 and 1972) Primarily because Mercury were very busy throwing all of their energy and efforts into the design, development, prototypes etc for their game changing V6. The base of which is still in production today.

MERCMAN.