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Title: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 07, 2014, 04:17:05 PM
Some piccies from last weekend, boating on the Murray at Tocumwal.

Lots of cruising up and down the river, and dragging kids on biscuit behind - used about 90l of fuel.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on November 11, 2014, 06:38:42 AM
Great pics Andrew, thanks for posting those.
I just had a look at Google maps and Google Earth to see where Tocumwal is. Welcome to NSW old mateI It looks to be a pretty good spot for boating and enjoying the River with your family. Lots of beaut beaches too, and not too far from home.
Have you sorted your choke operation as yet?

By the way, 90ltrs of fuel is absolutely nothing, compared to the price of a brand new fuel effecient outboard with similar performance to yours. You would be out of pocket by at least $18k including installation I reckon.

(I'd far rather pay for the EXTRA 50ltrs of juice you would use and then spend the difference on booze, fast cars and cheap women, then waste what's left!)

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 11, 2014, 01:03:57 PM
Thanks. Yes the Mexicans did cross the border! It is a lovely destination for boating/ boat camping etc. Plenty of nice beaches once you get about 15km downstream from Toc on a holiday weekend, and probably very nice closer to Toc at any other time.

No, haven't sorted choke yet....and still have t worked out how to use FaceTime! Have been busy in garden.

A



Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on August 21, 2016, 07:17:54 PM
Just for something to do, I decided to go outside and crank up the Starflite and see whether it worked, as she hasn't been started for 6 months. Battery was lacking cranking power, so a few hours on the charger, and then half a dozen "crank overs" ( still having issues remembering that the choke gets pushed up, not in!), and she started up nicely, blew some smoke out into the backyard, and hopefully blew the cobwebs out of the various places, and the wasp nests out of the cooling system.

Hoping to get out soon on Port Phillip Bay with a mate to do some fly fishing for Australian salmon, given that the fly fishing for trout down here in "Mexico" is lousy.

Pleased that the old girl still works. Now need to check the trailer bearings, and the winch that I use to get her in and out of our backyard.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on August 24, 2016, 07:50:37 AM
Always a pleasant surprise when they fire up nicely  :)

Fly fishing for Australian salmon must be fun as they are big (compared to freshwater) and give a good fight. Pity they don't eat well .

You may be in the water before SX 2  :D


Neil


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on August 24, 2016, 09:09:42 PM
Yes, Neil, I will be in the water this weekend - all set to go, weather and bay forecast fine, batteries being charged etc. And, yes, it is a pleasant surprise when they fire up! Mine fortunately is reasonably consistent ( now that I've sorted out how to use the choke).

Sadly Australian salmon in PPB often aren't that big - maybe 12-16". It'd just be nice to catch something. The western Australian ones are bigger. It'll just be nice to get out and about and catch a fish.

Unfortunately there are a whole lot of things that can go wrong boating, and I actually find the whole process of getting the boat out from our back garden and into the water, and back again at the end of the day quite (?very) stressful, without having to deal with "issues" that may occur during the trip. I'm hoping that this is just due to lack of use of boat - the more I use it and realise that the "system" works, the more relaxed I'll be. But, I'll be happy to be out on the water on Saturday.....

A




Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on August 27, 2016, 08:01:10 PM
Managed a day out on Port Phillip Bay today, but had some "issues" like Aaron's, in that motor started well, but more often than not wouldn't increase in revs easily, and when it did, it would get to a point where it sometimes "popped" and cut out, unless I reduced the throttle, in which case it idled nicely again. It was like it was only firing on 1 or 2 cylinders. After about 5 minutes of stuffing around like this, I would throttle her up in neutral, and eventually all the pots seemed to kick in, and then we'd run with no problems until the next time I needed to start her up, so it wasn't as though the engine was cold. This happened every time I started her, except the first, when there wasn't an issue! Fuel was new. I'll replace the plugs when the new ones come in next week ($22 for 4 from Repco), and keep my fingers crossed.

Regardless, we had fun, covered quite a few km, and caught 6 keepable flathead, so it wasn't a waste of time. Biggest issue was the northerly that came up early afternoon, making the run up PPB very choppy ( as in white caps and 3-4'  waves), and im not brave enough to crank up the speed on the Hartley to bounce off these waves, in case she falls to bits!

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on August 28, 2016, 05:32:12 PM
Guess the wind put an end to fly fishing .
With waves like that I'd rather be in your waiting room  :D

Neil


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on October 18, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
12 month beach house rental now sorted - boat now down at Sorrento.

New steering and helm have now been installed. Bow rail added. Wiring being "cleaned up". Need to work on some painting, but much more use likely to occur over summer. Will post photos as appropriate.

Still need to resolve replacement throttle cable. Will measure and deal with this soon.

A



Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on October 19, 2017, 08:07:57 AM
I have some OMC cables in stock. Let me know what length you require and I'll have a fossick through to see what I can help you with.

Sorrento eh? MERCMUM and I, plus a whole bunch of friends stayed in Portsea for 3 nights during March this year. The beers were $9 each at the Portsea Pub!

The real Sorrento in Italy was far better, including the shopping!

MERCMAN.
 


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on October 19, 2017, 06:33:28 PM
Thanks Guy. I'll have a look this weekend, and take some photos/measurements. Do I need to photograph both ends, or is the engine end always the same?

As to beer - yep, if you wish to buy it in the pub at Portsea, it will be $9. I only drink at home, in which case the cost of beer doesn't change much!

V excited about opportunities to get out in the boat over next few months. Just hope there isn't too much "troubleshooting" of problems to slow things down (and that carbie rebuild from late last year makes everything work even better).

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on October 23, 2017, 03:24:34 PM
To my knowledge, older OMC cables are all the same except for length. Please correct me if I'm wrong Mark or Oldenrude.

I couldn't have a beer at home, as it was 918 kms from where I was!

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on October 23, 2017, 05:41:23 PM
'Torna a Sorrento ' You all know it !
'Come back to Sorrento '

My 375 ml beer costs $1.50.
Glad to see it is all coming together A .


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on October 24, 2017, 07:43:55 PM
It's "coming together" in terms of boat getting some use again, but I look at Neil's photos, and would just love to present her in a similar way - it obviously won't happen!

I've got dings in the sides and keel/ missing paint/flaking paint/mismatched paint/unfilled screw holes/household electrical switches/ a tangle of wiring, which all works, but needs to be shortened and put in a conduit/a Perspex windscreen that is foggy and scratched, and sits loosely on the top of the cabin.....all of which irk me, a lot.

But, I've got a usable boat, so, I'm just going to have to accept the defects at the moment. If you recall, she cost me $600, and the motor was free, so I've had ? 8/9 years use for bugger all, and there's a bit of reverse snobbery with having a crappy boat where all my weathly  patients have "perfect" boats!

But, one day, I'd like to have a well presented 1970 ish boat and motor.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on October 25, 2017, 05:26:43 PM
You're right A .The perfect boats sit there and are generally unloved .Trophies ?

I know you are not to  irked as you have a practical boat that is used.

Like the reverse snobbery comment . I find it very important personally .

Love my SX2 but very few see her , I am inhibited .


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on October 26, 2017, 09:28:32 AM
Back to: The cost of booze.
On Tuesday evening, I was at the Adelaide Casino with a business collegue. It was my shout, I ordered 1 x Scotch (on the rocks) and 1 x Peroni draught beer.
Guess what?  $34.00  As you can guess, we left there pretty quick.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on October 26, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
Guy ,you should know being in South Australia that the greatest cost came from the electricity to make the 'rocks'  ;D


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on October 26, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
That's more expensive than the Portsea pub!


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on October 27, 2017, 09:02:51 AM
Hi Neil,
What an absolute joke wind generated electricity is in SA. What an absolute shame SA closed most of their power stations because of pressure from the so called greenies.

The management from the huge Adelaide Convention Centre were having to constantly apologise to the delegates and guest speakers for the flickering lights and general power issues during the 3 day event.
Attending the event were Professors, Students, CEO's and Government representatives from places such as Asia, Europe and America. The quality and reliability of the electricity supply was most embarrassing for the Aussies attending the event.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on October 27, 2017, 04:06:15 PM
G'day Guy,
How stupid is society that we cannot run coal , wind, solar and nuclear in cogeneration ?
Coal is finite but efficient -wind and solar infinite but variable - nuclear safe and so efficient .
You can get a small nuclear reactor which will fit in to a shipping container that will power a town .
Take pollies out of politics and stuff the sooky boneheads that won't keep up with technology !

Now - back to wonderful boating and calm seas   ;)


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on October 31, 2017, 05:47:07 AM
Hear hear, my friend!

That noise you can hear, is me clapping.

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 07, 2017, 08:22:00 PM
Did a bit of sanding,  bogging and priming this weekend.... and am actually using turps based house paint on  top sides, despite the cackles from you guys.  Might use some boat grade polyester on hull, but ain't got anywhere near that yet. Probs next summer!!

Aiming to get out in the water next weekend, weather permitting.....

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on November 09, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
Hi AA,
Think about this... your top sides will get 100% more direct sun light than your hull ever will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4LLc81AisE

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 09, 2017, 07:13:30 PM
Yes. Like my wooden house!

It gets lots of sunshine, but doesn't get immersed in water.....hence my plan to use house paint top sides.

There is even a whole west facing wall that hasn't been painted for 25yrs, and which is still intact...! Maybe I shouldn't bother painting my boat at all?!

Ok. I'll watch the YouTube and think more....

But, I do enjoy "piquing" Neil's comments, and house paint on boats always seems to set him off. He does , however , have a very beautifully finished boat.

Another anology relates to my recently deceased mother - at 90ish, she decided to replace her front picket fence, and decided to use pre-primed jarrah pickets. She then asked me to paint them properly, so they would "last".

I declined, on the grounds that jarrah, pre-primed or not, would last for ages, and even the primer on the fence would probably outlast her.


Anyway, hoping to get out on the water Sunday.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on November 10, 2017, 07:31:14 AM
I'm with you on all of that.
Enjoy Sunday, I wish I could join you. MERCMUM and I are still painting windows adjacent a new deck which has been built at the rear of our house.
The who guy installed the solar hot water on the garage roof for the pool earlier this week, will be installing the pump today, it will be all completed shortly. Yeeha!

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 11, 2017, 12:17:23 PM
Took her out this morning, and we limped along on 1/2 cylinder....help! Now home, fortunately without having to ask for a tow.

The motor was only just running at full throttle - and the pitch seemed to rise and fall a little.  At home I ran her on the muffs, and tried each cylinder separately - they each started, but the speed of each was uneven, rising and falling. Remember that this is the first time I have had her out since the carburettors were fixed, and it was me that reattached them. I wonder whether it is a problem with the fuel flow - there are those "long screws" that can be adjusted through the air intake, and I wonder whether these have been moved in redoing the carbies? Any ideas please?
A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 11, 2017, 03:30:12 PM
Problem partly solved. Seems that the throttle-choke linkage rod has been stolen by fairies. Fashioned a new one from thick coat hanger wire, and it sounds a lot better on the muffs. Might even chuck her back in the water tomorrow....

Other problem today was that I couldn’t get my 5hp “spare” outboard to start either!

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on November 12, 2017, 07:02:04 PM
A I remain un-piqued .  ;D
I have said as per your picket fence analogy that original wooden boats will not tolerate modern sealing paints as the integrity is in the specialized timber and they were coated in 'House Paint ' for looks.
E.G Huon pine -White beech etc.
Those timbers have to 'breathe ' . Look at all the colourful Mediterranean  fishing craft .
Modern (plywood ) should , particularly the edges as it sponges up water ,  be sealed .
This can be done with any type of paint these days however some seal much better than others although house paint is so chemically improved .

Whatever  ' Floats your Boat '  ;)

My signature - Hard 'a Starboard -is a metaphor for 'Do the Right Thing ' ;D

Re booze costs -we in NSW are having to pay 20c per can/bottle half going to charity and the other half refundable if you visit limited recycle depots and you get a voucher for Woolworths . Now I'm Piqued !


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 12, 2017, 08:15:39 PM
Bummer re booze....

Started her up today on muffs, and all worked well. Wasn't really the best morning for boating, and we had other things to do, so didn't go out, but I'm happy that I've trouble shooted enough to have her running OK when next she gets used......until the next problem!

Needing some paint under the waterline, but more of an issue is the abrasion to the edges of the keel, which exposes raw wood, the keel itself being  protected by a brass strip. Do I repair these raw edges with  epoxy?

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on November 13, 2017, 10:34:18 AM
Epoxy is fine for the keel particularly if the first coat is  'runny' as it will be absorbed by the exposed timber .
Wood must be bone dry however !


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on November 13, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
A the best way to epoxy the keel is to invert the boat  ;D


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 13, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Yes, Neil, I realise this. Too hard to do

Boat painting  needs to be "resolved" on the trailer, so might end up painting on some dilute epoxy whilst on trailer, then "bogging" it up, sanding it back as best as I can do and painting, or just " dealing with" the deficiencies until non boating weather, and thinking about it then.

Have thought about painting her on the trailer, but something of a PITA, as the mudguards on the wheels prevent the boat tipping more that 1" to each side, thereby limiting access to the bottom of the hull.

I'm keen to get out on the water, even if paint ain't where I want it to be.

PS mentally toying  with the idea of replacing the 'rude with a modern engine, but would I be evicted from the forum?

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on November 14, 2017, 09:59:47 AM
 Invert , I was jokin!

Can you move the boat on the trailer and do sections at a time where accessible ?

As to a modern motor - well yes and no ,well No!


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 14, 2017, 08:06:35 PM
Ahhh. Missed that, Neil. Oops.

I can probably fiddle with the skids etc when painting it, and spend some time lying on my back in the ground, splattering paint on my face.

Will hopefully get out with this weekend, now that I've established that outboards need air to work, and then decide I don't want a new motor.

BTW, in terms of basic engine functions,  when the throttle is moved forward, and the air intake to the engine is consequentially increased, what is it that increases the rpm?

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on November 15, 2017, 07:44:59 AM
As a non mechanic I think increased air is mixed with increased fuel in the carby resulting in a bigger bang making the piston go quicker and incrementally up go the revs .
Neil


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 17, 2017, 06:47:21 PM
Makes sense - also explains why no revs when carby intake flaps were closed last weekend! Hopefully the new coat hanger wire connection allows a better boating experience tomorrow. Now, where do I find an original version of what was connecting the flaps at each end of the carburettors, coz I'm not sure coat hanger wire is going to last so well.....?


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 18, 2017, 10:03:30 PM
Got out on PPB today - beautiful boating day. Motor ran slightly better than last weekend, but still no “full throttle” - probably managed displacement hull speed at best, and then motor eventually conked out, and we had to ask for a tow in, which was v undignified.

Now going to chuck it to Mark S to resolve, as I just don’t have the skills. Irritatingly, from previous use, I know the motor can run really well, and, whilst I am toying with replacing it with a new one, I really would prefer to keep the old donk on the boat, as the era matches.

I’ll see what Mark can do...just need to deal with a 1.5 hr drive to him, and another 1.5hr drive home from there...

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 19, 2017, 07:58:14 PM
Dumped the boat outside Mark's joint thus arvo for a few weeks of "rehabilitation" . Korumburra must be a decent place, as no one nicked my  boat in the few hours it was outside his place, but I suppose this may also reflect negatively on my boat....

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on November 20, 2017, 08:24:27 AM
Makes sense - also explains why no revs when carby intake flaps were closed last weekend! Hopefully the new coat hanger wire connection allows a better boating experience tomorrow. Now, where do I find an original version of what was connecting the flaps at each end of the carburettors, coz I'm not sure coat hanger wire is going to last so well.....?

The choke flaps aren't absolutely necessary. It will probably run a whole lot better if they were removed entirely. However, cold starts will be a little tricky on a V4 'rude . Products like CRC's Aerostart will easily sort that issue out.

In the mid 70's I bought a new 351 Ford V8 Panel Van.. That motor was far happier with the choke flaps removed. Cold starts were very acceptable even with out the use of the anaesthetic gas - Either.

Anyway, I'm sure we'll dig up a replacement choke linkage rod for you.

MERCMAN.





Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on November 20, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
Didn't realise those flaps made little difference. The thing I did notice when fiddling with my engine was that neither the ?engine manifold flap, not the choke flaps open up anywhere near fully when the throttle is moved forward. No doubt Mark will have great joy in informing me that I've installed the carburettors upside down, or some similar major bit of stupidity on my part.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on December 14, 2017, 07:28:43 PM
My rig still residing at Korumburra with Mark S...

Lower carbies seem to have minimal fuel coming into them - that was the one daughter #2's ex BF had for a few months, and which I got back a week before they broke up.  Maybe he screwed me over too?!

I seem to have indirectly completely buggered the gear box when I replaced the prop a while ago.....I recall that it was difficult to get the prop nut to attach, as the shaft seemed a bit short, so there was a " washer" behind the prob that got removed. Sadly, this seems to be the thing that stops the prop wearing into the gearbox....which is why gearbox is rooted, but he seems to have found a replacement.

Hopefully up and running soon. I'm very grateful to Mark for taking on the project, and, whilst no doubt frustrating to have to work on an old motor like this, at the end of the day, I'm happy to pay.

I think I'll just stick to Medicine....and minor motor repairs! It does irritate me that I can get my head around how a human works, but not a 2 stroke engine. Seems incongruous!

A





Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on December 15, 2017, 07:40:35 AM
G'day Andrew, That's very sad that your Thrust Washer wasn't included, during the re-installation of your prop.

As for the fuel flow, my guess would be to investigate the integrity of the lines. Mark will no doubt check cholesterol levels and the inside diameter of the arteries feeding the carbies. No bulk billing with Mark either. 

Mark's a good man, I'm very sure he'll persist with the old girl....and your outboard.

MERCMAN.
 


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: senojn on December 15, 2017, 01:03:14 PM
Regarding the dexterity of Australian doctors please see below !


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on December 15, 2017, 05:53:19 PM
Yes, Guy, sad that I failed to install the thrust washer, however it took a few years for the prop to wear through the the gear box!

Re Bulk billing - you get what you pay for. Which is why I wanted to pay Daughter #2's  ex BF - but he refused. Prob why carbie doesn't work! Had email from Mark saying he's almost done, but wants to make sure it works before I pick it up(!!). I'd quite like him to do that! No idea what it's going to cost, but I'm happy that it's being repaired by someone who has a lot more idea than I. Memo to you guys - don't try DIY medicine!

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on December 18, 2017, 06:48:46 AM
As for: ex BF, the poor guy probably had never see a carbie before, let alone work on one.. or two.

As for: DIY Medicine. That's what almost every house wife uses google for, isn't it? As everyone knows, Men don't need doctors!
 
MERCMAN.






Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on December 20, 2017, 07:14:48 PM
Getting v excited to get boat back soon. Mark informs me she's now running v smoothly, which I presume means she's running like a new Honda 4 stroke! He's even been good enough to check my trailer bearings and tell me they're half buggered ( and replaced  them,  before the longish tow home), so I'm extremely grateful for all he's done. If it hadn't been for this forum, I might now be the owner of a brand new shiny boat and outboard, instead, I'm enjoying the quirkiness of an almost 50 yo old outfit! I'm sure my current rig  is way more fun!...maybe.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on December 21, 2017, 09:58:51 AM
Another happy customer!

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

MERCMAN.



Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on December 21, 2017, 07:40:46 PM
I'm v happy for the contact through this forum, and I hope that Mark has not felt any undue obligation re my motor - I'm just happy to have a contact who is honest, and happy to pay commercial rates for repairs.

Will sort out pick up some time next week, as there's no purpose trying to launch a boat down the peninsula in the next few weeks, due to proponderance  of  dickheads at boat ramp!

Looking fwd to posting some piccies.

A


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on December 28, 2017, 06:13:42 PM
Nice to now be reunited with my boat, and to have met Mark S - he now has an intimate understanding about my ineptness with things mechanical!

Anyway, he tells me it's running smoothly; he's fixed a whole lot of stuff, including my throttle/gear changing woes, and even redid my bearings,  refitted my trailer brakes properly ( replaced my incorrectly sized and type of bolt), and adjusted the brakes so they work.

Given that I've not had anything done by a proper mechanic to the engine for 8yrs, the repair cost works out pretty cheaply averaged over the years.

Looking forward to getting on the water.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: MERCMAN on January 10, 2018, 10:43:13 AM
Happy New Year to all.

Andrew, did you manage to wet the bum of your boat since your last communication with us?
Any pics, we love pics?

MERCMAN.


Title: Re: AA's Hartley Flareline
Post by: andrewallan on January 10, 2018, 10:21:03 PM
Yes, boated last Sunday. QRan very smoothly and well initially , but after a while everything "slowed down", so we were only just able to get to planing speed. Speaking with Mark, I think it might be an issue with poor fuel supply to engine eg  fuel tank breather valve not working properly. The fuel line is new. Will fiddle with it next trip.

Won't be out again until,the end of January, and will post piccies then. Unfortunately this forum seems to require downsizing of piccies on a computer before posting, and I normally just use an iPad, so it's a bit more complicated to post piccies, but will do so after next trip. Mark did suggest I leave the cowl on the engine, and concentrate on painting the boat, which was a very nice way of saying I really shouldn't do anything mechanical! He can add to that if he wishes!

A